Different Points Podcast

In this episode of Different Points, Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn tackle a question that sits at the heart of how we pursue success — what's driving you, purpose or ambition? And is one better than the other? Honest, personal and thought-provoking as always.
What You'll Learn in This Episode
The real difference between purpose and ambition — and why it matters how you show up
How Catherine discovered the distinction between the two inside a spiritually driven organisation — and what it cost her when ambition took over
How Roy went from being number 20 to number one as a brand ambassador — and what fuelled that drive
Why having ambition isn't a bad thing — it's what you do with it that counts
How purpose and ambition can work together rather than against each other
Key Takeaways
When you're in purpose mode you show up more ethically, more generously and more effectively
When ambition takes over, it can quietly turn you competitive and self-serving without you noticing
Tracking your results isn't ego — it's accountability to your own mission
The goal isn't to kill your ambition — it's to keep it anchored to something bigger than personal gain
When purpose and ambition are balanced, both you and the people around you win
About Catherine Llewellyn
Stepping more deeply into your Calling? Book a Clarity Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/clarity
🤝 Join Catherine's Being Space Community✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com✦ Website: https://beingspace.world✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.✦ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@beingspace.world
About Roy Coughlan
🔗 Explore more podcasts: Find all podcasts at the PodFather Network✦ Website: https://roycoughlan.com/✦ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/✦ Private Networking Group: https://connectedleaders.academy✦ Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/✦ The Authority Alliance — A Foundation of Experts: https://theauthorityalliance.com/
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In this episode of Different Points, Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn get personal about what truly drives them. From a six-year-old Catherine questioning why adults weren't saying what they really meant, to Roy's quest to make the world better one conversation at a time — this is a reflective, honest episode that might just make you stop and ask yourself the same question.
What You'll Learn in This Episode
How Roy's financial wipeout led him to discover his real mission in life
Why Roy refuses work with brands that don't align with making the world better — even when the money is good
How a childhood moment at an afternoon tea party shaped Catherine's life's work
Why your calling is rarely one fixed thing — it evolves as you do
Why most of us are already following our calling without realising it
Key Takeaways
Your deeper calling often emerges from your own struggles — Roy feared public speaking, so he mastered it and now helps others do the same
When you change one person's life, the ripple effect reaches their entire family and beyond
Consciousness and awareness are at the root of most of humanity's problems — and also the solution
You don't have to have it all figured out — your calling reveals itself over time
If you think you're on the wrong path, you're probably not — you may just not yet see the path you're on
About Catherine Llewellyn
Stepping more deeply into your Calling? Book a Clarity Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/clarity
🤝 Join Catherine's Being Space Community✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com✦ Website: https://beingspace.world✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.✦ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@beingspace.world
About Roy Coughlan
🔗 Explore more podcasts: Find all podcasts at the PodFather Network✦ Website: https://roycoughlan.com/✦ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/✦ Private Networking Group: https://connectedleaders.academy✦ Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/✦ The Authority Alliance — A Foundation of Experts: https://theauthorityalliance.com/
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In this episode of Different Points, Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn get into one of the most underrated qualities a person can have — integrity in the small, everyday moments. The agreements you make with yourself, the things you do when no one is watching, and the courage to call things out even when it's uncomfortable. This one hits close to home.
What You'll Learn in This Episode
Why integrity starts with the small promises you make to yourself — and what happens when you break them
How consistent small acts of integrity create a solidity in yourself that you can feel
Why Roy tracks member results in The Authority Alliance — and what that says about how he operates
How Catherine's decision to tell a hard truth to a client ended up changing three people's lives for the better
Why calling out the wrong person for a job — even when no one wants to hear it — is always the right move
Key Takeaways
Integrity is like the structural integrity of a machine — when it starts to go, bits fall off
Doing the right thing when no one is watching is where real integrity lives
Taking people's money and not delivering is easy — integrity means refusing to let that happen
Sometimes the most honest thing you can do for someone is tell them they're in the wrong place
A culture of integrity is contagious — it lifts everyone around you
About Catherine Llewellyn
Stepping more deeply into your Calling? Book a Clarity Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/clarity
🤝 Join Catherine's Being Space Community✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com✦ Website: https://beingspace.world✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.✦ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@beingspace.world
About Roy Coughlan
🔗 Explore more podcasts: Find all podcasts at the PodFather Network✦ Website: https://roycoughlan.com/✦ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/✦ Private Networking Group: https://connectedleaders.academy✦ Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/✦ The Authority Alliance — A Foundation of Experts: https://theauthorityalliance.com/
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In this episode of Different Points, Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn explore what happens in the space between what people say and what they actually mean. From reading body language to knowing when to offer solutions versus just being present, this is a conversation about the deeper art of truly listening.
What You'll Learn in This Episode
Why paying attention to how someone says something matters as much as what they say
How to read body language and reactions to understand what's really going on
The classic mistake men make when women just want to be heard — and vice versa
Why you simply cannot build a real relationship over text
How using voice messages instead of text removes misunderstanding and keeps the real connection alive
Key Takeaways
Watching someone while they speak gives you information that words alone never will
Sometimes people don't want solutions — they just want to feel understood
Words alone cannot fully convey human experience — philosophers across history all agree on this
Text strips away tone, energy and body language — the very things that carry the real message
Before reacting to what someone said, ask yourself what it felt like behind those words
About Catherine Llewellyn
Stepping more deeply into your Calling? Book a Clarity Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/clarity
🤝 Join Catherine's Being Space Community✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com✦ Website: https://beingspace.world✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.✦ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@beingspace.world
About Roy Coughlan
🔗 Explore more podcasts: Find all podcasts at the PodFather Network✦ Website: https://roycoughlan.com/✦ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/✦ Private Networking Group: https://connectedleaders.academy✦ Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/✦ The Authority Alliance — A Foundation of Experts: https://theauthorityalliance.com/
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In this episode of Different Points, Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn tackle one of the most uncomfortable but necessary parts of life — the conversations we avoid. From relationships and money to business and trust, Roy and Catherine share raw, personal stories that show why honesty, no matter how hard, almost always leads to a better outcome than silence.
What You'll Learn in This Episode
Why avoidance makes difficult situations worse — and what to do instead
How revisiting an old relationship with honesty brought closure and renewed friendship
The importance of having honest conversations early in relationships about what you both want
How Roy handled serious financial difficulties by always picking up the phone — and why that made all the difference
Catherine's Aston Martin story — and why one dishonest decision cost a man years of his life
Key Takeaways
Honest conversations take courage — but you have to be ready for any outcome
In relationships, getting clear on what you both want early saves years of pain
If you owe someone money, staying in contact and being honest buys you time and goodwill
Avoidance creates a negative energy that follows you — honesty sets you both free
One honest phone call can prevent a disaster that silence will guarantee
About Catherine Llewellyn
Stepping more deeply into your Calling? Book a Clarity Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/clarity
🤝 Join Catherine's Being Space Community✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com✦ Website: https://beingspace.world✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.✦ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@beingspace.world
About Roy Coughlan
🔗 Explore more podcasts: Find all podcasts at the PodFather Network✦ Website: https://roycoughlan.com/✦ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/✦ Private Networking Group: https://connectedleaders.academy✦ Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/✦ The Authority Alliance — A Foundation of Experts: https://theauthorityalliance.com/
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Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn tackle a word that's been talked about for decades, authenticity, and ask what it actually looks like in action rather than just in conversation. Roy frames it simply: authenticity in action means your word is your bond. If you tell someone you'll have something done by tomorrow or call them back, doing exactly that is authenticity, and he shares how often he sees people talk a good game while repeatedly failing to follow through, forgetting who they are in the process. He also notes that when something does slip, the authentic response isn't self-punishment but acknowledgment and a genuine apology, followed by sticking to your word going forward. Catherine adds another layer: authenticity in action also means following what's true for you internally, whether that's pursuing something you genuinely want or letting go of a friendship that no longer serves either person, and actually acting on that truth rather than just thinking about it. She warns that authenticity can be faked on the surface, with a voice or tone that sounds sincere while covering something else entirely, which is exactly why the action, not just the appearance, is what matters.
 
Roy Coughlan is the founder of the Podfather Network, host of multiple podcasts including the CLA Internal Podcast and Awakening Podcast, and co-founder of The Authority Alliance, "A Foundation of Experts." Explore his full network of podcasts and services below.🎙️ Podfather Network: https://roycoughlan.com/🤝 Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/🤝 Private Networking Group (Connected Leaders Academy): https://connectedleaders.academy🧠 Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/🏛️ The Authority Alliance: https://theauthorityalliance.com/
Stepping more deeply into your Calling? Book a Clarity Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/clarity🤝 Join Catherine's Being Space Community✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com✦ Website: https://beingspace.world✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.✦ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@beingspace.world
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Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn take on a big question: what does self-leadership actually look like? Catherine reflects on how most of us are trained from childhood to expect leadership to come from someone else, whether it's school, parents, or a boss, and how she initially mistook self-leadership for simple stubbornness before realizing it's really an internal question of what values you want to follow and how you want to show up, independent of anyone else's approval. Roy connects it to self-motivation, sharing his experience going to the gym almost daily and noticing how many people pay for a coach but end up chatting through the whole session instead of actually working hard, while he pushes himself without one, learning new machines by simply watching and figuring it out. Catherine offers a different angle, explaining that when she does hire a personal trainer, she's deliberately subcontracting the motivation for that hour, while still holding herself responsible for her own progress and improvement overall. They close with a reminder that self-leadership looks different for everyone, and the goal is to trust your own version of it rather than borrowing someone else's definition.
 
Roy Coughlan is the founder of the Podfather Network, host of multiple podcasts including the CLA Internal Podcast and Awakening Podcast, and co-founder of The Authority Alliance, "A Foundation of Experts." Explore his full network of podcasts and services below.🎙️ Podfather Network: https://roycoughlan.com/🤝 Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/🤝 Private Networking Group (Connected Leaders Academy): https://connectedleaders.academy🧠 Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/🏛️ The Authority Alliance: https://theauthorityalliance.com/
Stepping more deeply into your Calling? Book a Clarity Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/clarity🤝 Join Catherine's Being Space Community✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com✦ Website: https://beingspace.world✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.✦ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@beingspace.world
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Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn dig into a deceptively simple question: what are you really chasing? Roy shares how he once chased conventional success, the bigger house, the better car, the properties, until he was completely wiped out through no fault of his own and lost it all. That experience shifted what he chases today: happiness, health, and success measured not by the destination but by enjoying the present journey, choosing businesses that benefit the world, and building something better for his kids. Catherine reflects on two areas where the question has shown up strongest in her own life: relationships, where she often chased connection without being conscious of whether what she actually wanted was love or something else entirely, and personal development, where even in the spiritual world she caught herself chasing the next level of enlightenment, only to realize that presence and connection aren't things you chase, they're things you're open to receiving. A short, sweet episode on catching yourself mid-chase and asking what you're actually after.
 
Roy Coughlan is the founder of the Podfather Network, host of multiple podcasts including the CLA Internal Podcast and Awakening Podcast, and co-founder of The Authority Alliance, "A Foundation of Experts." Explore his full network of podcasts and services below.🎙️ Podfather Network: https://roycoughlan.com/🤝 Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/🤝 Private Networking Group (Connected Leaders Academy): https://connectedleaders.academy🧠 Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/🏛️ The Authority Alliance: https://theauthorityalliance.com/
Stepping more deeply into your Calling? Book a Clarity Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/clarity🤝 Join Catherine's Being Space Community✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com✦ Website: https://beingspace.world✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.✦ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@beingspace.world
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Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn explore the gap between reacting and responding, and why that difference shapes so much of how our lives unfold. Catherine breaks down reaction as a knee-jerk, thoughtless impulse versus response as a more conscious, considered choice, and shares how factors like rest, stress, and confidence all affect which one we default to. Roy shares a personal story of collecting his young son from Montessori school and initially reacting with frustration to his grumpiness, before catching himself, recognizing the boy was simply exhausted, and choosing love and understanding instead, a small shift that changed everything in the moment. The conversation moves into how reactions are often triggered by something much older than the present situation, sometimes rooted in our past or even, as Catherine notes, ancestral patterns, and why forgiving ourselves for reacting is part of learning to respond instead. Roy talks about deliberately avoiding the news because of how reliably it triggers an emotional reaction, and both share how they've each chosen to step back from people whose negativity makes it harder to stay in a responsive state, while intentionally moving closer to people who create and inspire. They close with the idea of tending your circle like bridges to an island: some bridges need burning, and new ones will form with people who give you energy instead of draining it.
Roy Coughlan is the founder of the Podfather Network, host of multiple podcasts including the CLA Internal Podcast and Awakening Podcast, and co-founder of The Authority Alliance, "A Foundation of Experts." Explore his full network of podcasts and services below.🎙️ Podfather Network: https://roycoughlan.com/🤝 Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/🤝 Private Networking Group (Connected Leaders Academy): https://connectedleaders.academy🧠 Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/🏛️ The Authority Alliance: https://theauthorityalliance.com/
Stepping more deeply into your Calling? Book a Clarity Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/clarity🤝 Join Catherine's Being Space Community✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com✦ Website: https://beingspace.world✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.✦ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@beingspace.world
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Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn sit down for a conversation about the pull between curiosity and certainty, and why one tends to open life up while the other can quietly shut it down. Catherine shares how being over-certain has, at times in her life, blocked her from learning things she needed to learn, while too much curiosity has sent her chasing so many ideas at once that she loses focus, and why she believes curiosity is ultimately the more creative and life-opening of the two. Roy reflects on watching his grandmother and her siblings, and later his own mother, hold onto certainty rooted in stories they had told themselves for years, and shares a personal example of being completely certain he started Kung Fu at 16, only to find an old letter proving he was actually 13. The conversation turns to how getting curious rather than defensive, asking why am I certain of this, can peel back the layers of a belief and bring us closer to the truth. Catherine recalls being challenged during her master's in humanistic psychology to argue a philosophical debate from every side rather than her own opinion, and Roy shares how he built a similar exercise into his own Toastmasters club by having pro and con sides argue the opposite of what they actually believe. They close with a simple challenge: next time you catch yourself feeling certain about something, try arguing the opposite point of view, just to see what happens.
Roy Coughlan is the founder of the Podfather Network, host of multiple podcasts including the CLA Internal Podcast and Awakening Podcast, and co-founder of The Authority Alliance, "A Foundation of Experts." Explore his full network of podcasts and services below.🎙️ Podfather Network: https://roycoughlan.com/🤝 Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/🤝 Private Networking Group (Connected Leaders Academy): https://connectedleaders.academy🧠 Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/🏛️ The Authority Alliance: https://theauthorityalliance.com/
Stepping more deeply into your Calling? Book a Clarity Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/clarity🤝 Join Catherine's Being Space Community✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com✦ Website: https://beingspace.world✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.✦ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@beingspace.world
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