Different Points Podcast
A podcast in short bursts. Each episode poses one question, and two people answer it from where they actually stand.
Roy Coughlan (The Podfather) and Catherine Llewellyn (Beingspace.world) sit on different sides of most things — life experience, worldview, the way they arrive at an answer. Different Points isn't about reaching agreement. It's about hearing two honest responses to the same question, side by side, in under 10 minutes.
No script, no debate to win. Just one question, two points of view, and whatever truth sits between them.
New episodes drop Monday through Friday. Pick a question, press play, and see where you land.
A podcast in short bursts. Each episode poses one question, and two people answer it from where they actually stand.
Roy Coughlan (The Podfather) and Catherine Llewellyn (Beingspace.world) sit on different sides of most things — life experience, worldview, the way they arrive at an answer. Different Points isn't about reaching agreement. It's about hearing two honest responses to the same question, side by side, in under 10 minutes.
No script, no debate to win. Just one question, two points of view, and whatever truth sits between them.
New episodes drop Monday through Friday. Pick a question, press play, and see where you land.
Episodes

Aug 27, 2026
#23 Healthy Boundaries
Aug 27, 2026
Aug 27, 2026
5 min
In this episode, Roy and Catherine dig into where their own boundaries most need attention — and for both of them, it's less about other people than about themselves. Catherine opens up about her long, ongoing relationship with screens and scrolling, comparing it to a kind of addiction that never fully disappears, just gets managed better or worse at different points in life — and makes the case that our culture has had thousands of years to learn healthy relationships with things like alcohol, but almost no time to adapt to technology deliberately engineered to be this compelling. Roy picks up the thread on how apps like Facebook and WhatsApp actively pull you back in with little red dots right when you're trying to do something else, and shares his own practical boundary: reading physical books instead of PDFs or audio, and stepping away from screens on purpose. He then turns to boundaries with people — recognizing that some people you can handle for five minutes, others for a day, others for a week, and that real self-protection means knowing that difference and choosing to spend more time around the people who energize you rather than the ones who drain you, instead of trying to be "Mr. Nice Guy" with everyone.
Roy Coughlan · The Podfather NetworkWebsite: https://roycoughlan.com/Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 44+ Countries with 675+ Members https://connectedleaders.academyBrain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/
Stepping more deeply into your Calling? Book a Clarity Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/clarity🤝 Join Catherine's Being Space Community✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com✦ Website: https://beingspace.world✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.✦ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@beingspace.world
#DifferentPoints #HealthyBoundaries #ScreenTime #SelfProtection #PersonalGrowth #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan
Aug 27, 2026
5 min

Aug 27, 2026
#22 Relationships That Help Us Grow
Aug 27, 2026
Aug 27, 2026
5 min
In this episode, Roy and Catherine explore the relationships that shape who we become. Roy talks about staying close to his mother as a daily sounding board — valued more for her intuition and people-sense than for business advice — and about surrounding himself with people he trusts who are genuinely trying to make things better for others. He shares his approach to friendship as something built deliberately, not left to chance: picking up the phone instead of waiting to be needed, and choosing a real conversation over a quick Facebook birthday comment. Catherine builds on this with a broader idea — that any relationship can help us grow if we're willing to grow, even a difficult one, because it can teach us our own trigger points and shadow. But it's authenticity specifically — being around people who are genuinely themselves, without pretense — that she finds most nourishing, since it encourages her to become more real too. She closes with a reflection on podcast guests: how every real, open conversation on the show helps her grow, and that if you've ever been a guest on someone's show, you've likely helped them grow more than you realize.
Roy Coughlan · The Podfather NetworkWebsite: https://roycoughlan.com/Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 44+ Countries with 675+ Members https://connectedleaders.academyBrain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/
Stepping more deeply into your Calling? Book a Clarity Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/clarity🤝 Join Catherine's Being Space Community✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com✦ Website: https://beingspace.world✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.✦ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@beingspace.world
#DifferentPoints #RelationshipsThatHelpUsGrow #Authenticity #PersonalGrowth #Connection #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan
Aug 27, 2026
5 min

Aug 27, 2026
#21 The Gift of Self-Compassion
Aug 27, 2026
Aug 27, 2026
3 min
In this episode, Roy and Catherine ask a simple but surprisingly hard question: can you be kinder to yourself? Catherine recalls the first time someone told her to take better care of herself — and how it landed as criticism rather than care, a reflex she traces back to a lifelong identity of resilience and toughness that left little room for treating herself as someone who also needs love and vulnerability. She didn't start learning true self-compassion until her 30s, and makes the case that it's a prerequisite for genuinely caring for others — you can't give what you're not giving yourself. Roy shares his own approach of consistently choosing self-appreciation over self-criticism, modeling that for his children rather than talking about it, and draws a comparison to the well-known plant experiment on how words and energy — positive or negative — shape what they're directed at. A short, genuine reminder to talk to yourself the way you'd talk to something you actually want to thrive.
Roy Coughlan · The Podfather NetworkWebsite: https://roycoughlan.com/Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 44+ Countries with 675+ Members https://connectedleaders.academyBrain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/
Stepping more deeply into your Calling? Book a Clarity Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/clarity🤝 Join Catherine's Being Space Community✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com✦ Website: https://beingspace.world✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.✦ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@beingspace.world
#DifferentPoints #SelfCompassion #BeKindToYourself #Mindset #SelfLove #PersonalGrowth #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan
Aug 27, 2026
3 min

Aug 27, 2026
#20 Reframing Setbacks
Aug 27, 2026
Aug 27, 2026
3 min
In this episode, Roy and Catherine tackle a question worth sitting with: what if failure actually teaches us something? Roy opens up about losing everything — his home, his belongings, all of it — during the mortgage crisis, and how that setback, rather than breaking him, led him into living mindfully in the present and studying sovereignty, which he now credits with making him more powerful and free than he was before. Catherine pushes back on the word "failure" itself, unpacking the deep conditioning that equates a failed project with being a failed person, and why the real skill isn't avoiding failure but learning to say "that didn't work" without spiraling into believing you're not good enough. They land on Einstein's definition of insanity — repeating the same action and expecting a different result — and the importance of having someone in your life who can tap you on the shoulder and remind you of everything you've done right, right when you need it most.
Roy Coughlan · The Podfather NetworkWebsite: https://roycoughlan.com/Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 44+ Countries with 675+ Members https://connectedleaders.academyBrain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/
Stepping more deeply into your Calling? Book a Clarity Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/clarity🤝 Join Catherine's Being Space Community✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com✦ Website: https://beingspace.world✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.✦ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@beingspace.world
#DifferentPoints #ReframingSetbacks #FailureIsNotFinal #Mindset #Resilience #PersonalGrowth #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan
Aug 27, 2026
3 min

Aug 27, 2026
#19 The Stories We Tell Ourselves
Aug 27, 2026
Aug 27, 2026
5 min
In this episode, Roy and Catherine explore the stories we unconsciously tell ourselves — and how they quietly run our lives. Catherine shares a wake-up call from a conversation with a marketing coach, who helped her see the excuses she'd built around avoiding social media ("I'm too old," "my clients won't be on there anyway") — stories that vanished the moment she recognized them as fake. Roy shares two of his own, including a childhood story about when he actually started Kung Fu, and a long-running family debate over what he supposedly asked his grandmother to borrow from the library. Together they reflect on how these stories operate below our awareness, why that's exactly what gives them power over us, and how something as simple as pursuing a relationship, a book, a project, or getting fit can get quietly blocked by a narrative we've never questioned. The takeaway: it's hard to see your own stories alone — find someone who can reflect them back to you.
Roy Coughlan · The Podfather NetworkWebsite: https://roycoughlan.com/Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 44+ Countries with 675+ Members https://connectedleaders.academyBrain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/
Stepping more deeply into your Calling? Book a Clarity Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/clarity🤝 Join Catherine's Being Space Community✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com✦ Website: https://beingspace.world✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.✦ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@beingspace.world
#DifferentPoints #TheStoriesWeTellOurselves #Mindset #SelfAwareness #PersonalGrowth #LimitingBeliefs #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan
Aug 27, 2026
5 min

Aug 21, 2026
#18 Progress Over Pressure
Aug 21, 2026
Aug 21, 2026
4 min
In this episode of Different Points, Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn dig into what happens when pressure takes over — and why celebrating small steps forward beats anxious fixation on the end goal every time. From the nightmare of UK property chains to how Poland does it in a day, this is a practical and uplifting conversation about staying in flow.
What You'll Learn in This Episode
Why pressure kills momentum and sends you reaching for distractions instead of taking action
How Catherine learned to celebrate every single step in the conveyancing process — and why that mindset shift changed everything
Why telling yourself something might fall through could actually make it more likely to
How Poland's notary system cuts through the chaos that makes UK property buying so painful
Why progress, not pressure, is what keeps you moving forward with energy and clarity
Key Takeaways
Pressure creates procrastination — flow creates progress
Celebrate every milestone along the way, no matter how small — each one is a genuine result
Anxiety about outcomes attracts the very thing you're afraid of — focus on what's moving forward
Better systems exist everywhere in the world — the willingness to look and learn from them is the real advantage
You can't control the whole chain, but you can control how you show up at each step
About Catherine Llewellyn
Stepping more deeply into your Calling? Book a Clarity Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/clarity
🤝 Join Catherine's Being Space Community✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com✦ Website: https://beingspace.world✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.✦ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@beingspace.world
About Roy Coughlan
🔗 Explore more podcasts: Find all podcasts at the PodFather Network✦ Website: https://roycoughlan.com/✦ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/✦ Private Networking Group: https://connectedleaders.academy✦ Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/✦ The Authority Alliance — A Foundation of Experts: https://theauthorityalliance.com/
#DifferentPoints #ProgressOverPressure #CelebrateTheSteps #Podcasting #PersonalGrowth #RoyCoughlan #CatherineLlewellyn #Mindset #Authenticity #Flow #Momentum
Aug 21, 2026
4 min

Aug 20, 2026
#17 Letting Go of Perfection
Aug 20, 2026
Aug 20, 2026
4 min
In this episode of Different Points, Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn get into something that holds more people back than they'd like to admit — the pursuit of perfection. When does attention to detail serve you, and when does it just get in the way? Raw, honest and fittingly imperfect, this one is worth your time.
What You'll Learn in This Episode
Why Catherine used to edit every pause and um out of her podcast — and why she stopped
How Roy launched this very podcast within days of the idea coming up — and what that says about momentum
How The Authority Alliance went from idea to reality at speed — and why that's the only way to do it
The painful cost of watching someone take 50 iterations to make a decision while you're already a mile down the road
Why keeping the awkward moments in this episode was a deliberate choice — and why it works
Key Takeaways
Good enough, done, is almost always better than perfect, someday
Over-editing your podcast makes it wooden — the organic moments are what people actually connect with
Speed of execution is a competitive advantage — launch, then pivot and improve
Perfection has its place, but when it becomes a habit it stops being a standard and starts being an excuse
Being raw and real on a podcast builds more trust than a polished production that sounds like nobody
About Catherine Llewellyn
Stepping more deeply into your Calling? Book a Clarity Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/clarity
🤝 Join Catherine's Being Space Community✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com✦ Website: https://beingspace.world✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.✦ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@beingspace.world
About Roy Coughlan
🔗 Explore more podcasts: Find all podcasts at the PodFather Network✦ Website: https://roycoughlan.com/✦ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/✦ Private Networking Group: https://connectedleaders.academy✦ Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/✦ The Authority Alliance — A Foundation of Experts: https://theauthorityalliance.com/
#DifferentPoints #LettingGoOfPerfection #DoneIsBetterThanPerfect #Podcasting #PersonalGrowth #RoyCoughlan #CatherineLlewellyn #Mindset #Authenticity #Entrepreneurship #TheAuthorityAlliance
Aug 20, 2026
4 min

Aug 19, 2026
#16 Following What Gives You Life
Aug 19, 2026
Aug 19, 2026
5 min
In this episode of Different Points, Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn explore something deceptively simple — what actually makes you feel alive? Not the theory of life, but the feeling of it. From family and conscious dance to sober raves at sunrise, this is a warm, joyful conversation that might make you stop and ask yourself what you've been putting off that genuinely lights you up.
What You'll Learn in This Episode
Why Roy rings his mother every single day — and why family is at the heart of everything he does
How Catherine discovered conscious dance and why letting your body move without explaining yourself is one of the most liberating things you can do
Why so many people feel they need alcohol to dance — and what happens when you prove them wrong
How Roy experienced the joy of a hundred people dancing sober at A-Fest and nobody judging anyone
The difference between talking about life and actually living it
Key Takeaways
The things you do with passion aren't separate from your family — they're for them
Life is a force, not a theory — and you feel the difference when you stop explaining and start experiencing
You don't need alcohol to dance, to connect or to have fun — you just need to stop caring what anyone thinks
Following what gives you life isn't selfish — it makes you more present and alive for everyone around you
Joy is contagious — when people see you having more fun sober, it makes them question everything
About Catherine Llewellyn
Stepping more deeply into your Calling? Book a Clarity Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/clarity
🤝 Join Catherine's Being Space Community✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com✦ Website: https://beingspace.world✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.✦ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@beingspace.world
About Roy Coughlan
🔗 Explore more podcasts: Find all podcasts at the PodFather Network✦ Website: https://roycoughlan.com/✦ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/✦ Private Networking Group: https://connectedleaders.academy✦ Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/✦ The Authority Alliance — A Foundation of Experts: https://theauthorityalliance.com/
#DifferentPoints #FollowWhatGivesYouLife #Aliveness #Podcasting #PersonalGrowth #RoyCoughlan #CatherineLlewellyn #Mindset #Authenticity #Joy #ConsciousDance
Aug 19, 2026
5 min

Aug 18, 2026
#15 Trusting Your Intuition
Aug 18, 2026
Aug 18, 2026
4 min
In this episode of Different Points, Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn explore one of the most powerful — and most ignored — tools we have as humans. From the gut feeling Roy had before a financial crash to the motorbike he knew wasn't right, to the spontaneous idea that started this very podcast — this episode is a reminder to stop letting your head talk you out of what you already know.
What You'll Learn in This Episode
How this podcast was born from a single intuitive moment — and why Catherine almost didn't act on it
The gut feeling Roy had to sell everything before the financial crash — and what it cost him to ignore it
Why a motorbike that never felt right led Roy to make a decision that may have saved his life
How Roy's mother has an almost perfect track record of reading people — and why he now listens to her
The three brains — head, heart and gut — and why letting the head dominate drowns out the other two
Key Takeaways
Intuition is often data that's been processed in the background before you're consciously aware of it
Sometimes it seems to come from nowhere at all — and that's exactly when you need to trust it most
The question is never whether you can prove it — it's whether you choose to trust it
When your gut, your heart and the people closest to you are all saying the same thing, listen
The moments you ignored your intuition are usually the ones you later wish you hadn't
About Catherine Llewellyn
Stepping more deeply into your Calling? Book a Clarity Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/clarity
🤝 Join Catherine's Being Space Community✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com✦ Website: https://beingspace.world✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.✦ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@beingspace.world
About Roy Coughlan
🔗 Explore more podcasts: Find all podcasts at the PodFather Network✦ Website: https://roycoughlan.com/✦ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/✦ Private Networking Group: https://connectedleaders.academy✦ Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/✦ The Authority Alliance — A Foundation of Experts: https://theauthorityalliance.com/
#DifferentPoints #TrustYourIntuition #GutFeeling #Podcasting #PersonalGrowth #RoyCoughlan #CatherineLlewellyn #Mindset #Authenticity #Intuition #InnerWisdom
Aug 18, 2026
4 min

Aug 17, 2026
#14 When Life Changes Your Direction
Aug 17, 2026
Aug 17, 2026
4 min
In this episode of Different Points, Roy Coughlan and Catherine Llewellyn reflect on the moments life took an unexpected turn — and what happened when they chose to flow with it rather than fight it. From financial wipeout to lockdown podcasting, this is a powerful conversation about resilience, freedom and trusting the path you didn't plan.
What You'll Learn in This Episode
How Roy losing everything financially set him on a far better path than the one he was on
Why accepting a major life setback as a gift — rather than a catastrophe — changes everything
How Catherine started her podcast during lockdown simply to survive mentally — and how it grew into something extraordinary
Why ending up somewhere completely different from where you planned can be the best thing that ever happens to you
How life puts power behind you when you stop fighting it and start flowing with it
Key Takeaways
The worst things that happen to you are often what redirect you toward your real purpose
Staying in victim mode kills your direction — moving forward opens everything up
Freedom isn't something you get from the system — it's something you realise you already have
When you follow life's redirection with an open mind, doors open that you never knew existed
Congratulations to Catherine on surpassing 400,000 downloads and reaching the top 30 in the USA!
About Catherine Llewellyn
Stepping more deeply into your Calling? Book a Clarity Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/clarity
🤝 Join Catherine's Being Space Community✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com✦ Website: https://beingspace.world✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.✦ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@beingspace.world
About Roy Coughlan
🔗 Explore more podcasts: Find all podcasts at the PodFather Network✦ Website: https://roycoughlan.com/✦ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/✦ Private Networking Group: https://connectedleaders.academy✦ Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/✦ The Authority Alliance — A Foundation of Experts: https://theauthorityalliance.com/
#DifferentPoints #WhenLifeChangesDirection #Resilience #Podcasting #PersonalGrowth #RoyCoughlan #CatherineLlewellyn #Mindset #Authenticity #Freedom #LifeDirection
Aug 17, 2026
4 min







